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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

My dog is a freaking Democrat she sits around the house expects and then gets everything for free and doesn't have to do anything and she gets the best care if she only knew what it was like to have a bad owner.... Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Anyone supporting socialism/communism can suck on this ex-commies nut sack, I'll tell you all about the pleasures awaiting you after all your rights are taken away.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

azflycaster wrote:
My dog is a freaking Democrat she sits around the house expects and then gets everything for free and doesn't have to do anything and she gets the best care if she only knew what it was like to have a bad owner.... Shocked

you forgot the 'licks own genitals' part.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

cruiser.308 wrote:
Yeah, you can say that, but then, when enough people realize this, then socialism collapses and becomes communism, just like China or North Korea, where then you become a slave, and if you don't produce your quota, you get rammed without the lube! (sounds like a snowflake's dream don't it?)
so your entire argument is "it get's bad once corruption sets in".
I don't disagree.

However, maybe take a look at how that EXACT concept worked out for literally any other structure or organization. Democracy included. There has not yet been any societal ideal that has not been turned bad by human greed.

also, about snowflakes: you do know that's what glaciers are made of, right? The entire face of our planet has been shaped by the force of united snowflakes. Just saying. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Say goodbye to nice trails and remote camping they're going to close them all down get your trips in soon before the new government takes over.... Mad

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

azflycaster wrote:
Say goodbye to nice trails and remote camping they're going to close them all down get your trips in soon before the new government takes over.... Mad

If you are talking about COVID related infection rate mitigation steps.. then yes something needs to be done because whatever is currently implemented simply isn't working.

www.azdhs.gov/prepared...ashboards/

barely doing 9500 tests a day and still resulting in an almost 10% positive rate is terrible and should be a somber wake up for everyone.

www.nytimes.com/intera...cases.html

and don't come at me with the BS about "remote camping and hiking IS social distancing.." Sure in theory those things are socially safe.. but people gather. When people gather virus spread and other people get infected. Because people can't or won't act responsibly the next step is the restriction of activities.

Unfortunately "a few bad apples" do impact the whole pile.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Yes. A few bad apples. So let’s destroy the whole thing. It’s like the military...one guy screws up and they throw a “blanket” over the whole thing and restrict everyone’s ability to do something. This way it can never happen again. “Who cares if the whole pie loses out. That one guy can’t screw up again!”
That’s such a lame response. Instead of dealing with the problem, we screw it all.
I hate to say it, but I don’t care what happens anymore. Or maybe I should say I don’t want to care anymore and I am working towards that goal. I’m tired of worrying about what one group will do or not do. The majority of America wants it. Let them have it. Yes, I’m talking about socialism.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

time for some homework .. can you spot Mod_Muscle's argument fallacy? Smile
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

I vote: yourlogicalfallacyis.c...pery-slope
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Hi Guys!

I accidently clicked on AZFJ today and it's still alive!

I thought everybody moved to facebook (or somewhere else)?!?

Hooray! Arizona survived another election day, maybe our last one!

At least dope smokers can now stay legally numb 24x7 here!

And gas is cheap, and my FJ is still purring nicely. Too bad the greenie, commie, bastards will cut off our fuel soon enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

calichaos wrote:
time for some homework .. can you spot Mod_Muscle's argument fallacy? Smile
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

I vote: yourlogicalfallacyis.c...pery-slope

What are you trying to say?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

The virus so bad, that you have to get tested to see if your positive
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

nimrag wrote:
The virus so bad, that you have to get tested to see if your positive

Not sure if sarcasm or skepticism.. but yes a virus so bad you should get tested to see if you or a loved one is positive.

www.gundersenhealth.or...-covid-19/
www.webmd.com/lung/new...t-harmless
www.advisory.com/daily...ymptomatic

so yes a person should get tested if
1) they have been exposed to a known COVID case
2) they have symptoms of COVID

why? because when you know you are COVID positive (like so many other infectious diseases ) you can take mitigating steps to help not harm your fellow humans.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Alex, can I get a block on calichaos for $100?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

I've got three heart stents I'm diabetic and I have a full titanium hip I guess I'm just not a pussy and scared of the virus how about anybody else around here??? Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Trump 2020 Reply with quote

Right or wrong I believe it all too be a joke or scam of epic proportions.
I know people have gotten sick and some have died. I don't know anyone who has had it. I go to work every day, no social distancing, and no mask. I work in the RV industry, so you know the average customer base.
The country is falling apart, and being driven apart by those in power, and more so by the ones that want more power.
I'm with mod muscle on this one.

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