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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

Not sure how I feel about them (although it's leaning towards 'not bueno') but those camera thingies that PV slapped up recently... I guess I kinda paid for a microscopic fraction of the cost. Turns out that the owner of Discount Tire was the one who footed the bill:

www.fox10phoenix.com/s...ontroversy

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What are the odds of shooting at an FJ and not getting shot back???
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

I guess you'll have to stop hanging out in Paradise Valley. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

As soon as they move the mountain that I frequently hike, I'll do just that.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

They are going to put you on a watch list because you go into their town too much.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

What happens if you remove your license plate? Did you beat the system?

This is a bunch of feel good bullshit.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

I have already put Paradise Valley on my personal "do not spend money with, do not promote list.." I saw the part about Discount Tire, however I believe the donation was for a generic "law enforcement technology enhancement" and the PD decided to install George Orwell with the money.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

The finest safety money can buy.

Don't worry, the article promises they only take images of the rear plate, and it's sent to DHS within seconds. But they don't save images of the front of the vehicle to identify occupants. Reassuring.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

images kept for 6 months... but they also dont say if the images will be copy/sent to other agencies with different retention policies. My money is the NSA DHS get a copy of everyone snapped.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

As if the NSA isn't monitoring that data stream with or without PV's help =)

Shit, I stopped doing data backups personally. Figured I can always call the NSA for a file restore.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

Thoreau wrote:
As if the NSA isn't monitoring that data stream with or without PV's help =)

Shit, I stopped doing data backups personally. Figured I can always call the NSA for a file restore.

^^^ THIS!
lmfao

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

Jimbolio wrote:
Thoreau wrote:
As if the NSA isn't monitoring that data stream with or without PV's help =)

Shit, I stopped doing data backups personally. Figured I can always call the NSA for a file restore.

^^^ THIS!
lmfao

if you are not familar..
www.cryptography.org/getpgp.htm
+
veracrypt.codeplex.com/


at least when your files go into the NSA cloud they can be encrypted to reduce the prying eyes.. of course without saying you should use a flavor of AES with a 256 block cipher or greater

OR do nothing, because well "it doesn't matter anyways..."
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

What in the name of shit?!?

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

I don't like the cameras at all. I will say that I know for a fact that Bruce has always made large donations to law enforcement and veterans organizations. I also know that he and his wife were victims in their PV home some time back so I don't blame him for possibly "extra" donating to the PV law enforcement. I have no way to know if the cameras were something he thought about, or his personal views on them. I guess my point is, I'm not ready to villainize DT or Mr H based on the information currently known.

Still don't like the cameras.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

In Pima County, they simply ran out of political will to keep these cameras going. (More likely budget) but that won't be a problem in PV.

There were 11 speed cams around the county.

They are gone now.
The City of Tucson maintains an annoyingly robust redlight camera program which isn't going anywhere. I have to admit, it has reduced fatalities at intersections. But more likely it has fattened the general fund.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: PV Cactus Cameras... Discount Tire =) Reply with quote

They still have photo radar vans that are apparently invisible to drivers in a hurry. Very Happy

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