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The "I can quit at any time" build thread
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

First Nestor's rebuild, which will take more fab work and less mechanical figuring... then the blue cruiser which will be more mechanical cusswork.

... actually, if I don't want to end up with a change of address to the dog house, it's first fix the gate... then on to to the 4x4's. Smile

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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

Is that what you call the workshop balcony? The doghouse? Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

Unfortunately, if I get banished... I'll probably end up in the camper. There's no place to pee in the garage!

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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

So I'll be done with the garage this weekend. There's very little more to do and none of it is big stuff.

I started to plunk down for the cruiser build.

Here's a 5.3L Chevy Vortec with 4L60E transmission. Now that it's here, I can order the correct parts for the transfer case adapter.





It comes with the full wiring harness, computer, fuse block, and electronic throttle control.








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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

Its gonna stall and strand you in the middle of nowhere.....if you don't debadge that thing...he he.he....

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

azflycaster1 wrote:
Its gonna stall and strand you in the middle of nowhere.....if you don't debadge that thing...he he.he....
They're pretty reliable engines, if you can stand the oil consumption issues.

Can't wait to see some progress!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

Doesn't look like a 22R!!!! Outstanding.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

I've basically got the shop space done. All the heavy work is complete. There's a few odds and ends like venting the compressor shed and putting a switch inline with the power to the shed so I can shut it down from inside the shop.

The back shelves in the cave are in a bad state and I started getting that under control, but that's not a deal breaker. That will be going on forever.

It's time to rebuild Nestor's Green Mamba.



Shall we start Monday? I'll be barbecuing anyhow, so I'm not going anywhere.

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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

BellyDoc wrote:


It's time to rebuild Nestor's Green Mamba.



Shall we start Monday? I'll be barbecuing anyhow, so I'm not going anywhere.

Monday it is! Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

UPS FTW!

The brown knight just arrived with 81 pounds of parts from Advance Adapters.

I got an adapter kit to mount the 1988 Landcruiser transfer case onto the 2002 GM 4L60E 2WD transmission. It includes a couple of bigger machined aluminum castings, an impressive spud shaft, seals and hardware.

Next, I got a conversion kit to make the transfer case twin stick. The stock configuration involves a vacuum actuator with a dashboard switch for 2/4 shifting and a lever for hi/lo.

After that, there's a new collection of gears to go significantly lower without a doubler, and a rebuild kit to do the installation.




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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

More parts-porn here.

Good things come in small packages.



Yes, this package isn't much larger than a Shih-Tzu, but it weighed 74 pounds. You can see they boxed the parts, then triple banded the box in both directions, and then laminated it with postal tape. As it is, the cardboard was basically done. It might as well be a paper bag.

Opening the box, the first thing encountered was some actually useful swag:



They threw in 3 beer holders, some stickers, a laser cut logo badge, and a sampler of seriously awesome tabs including brake line tabs and zip tie tabs. I was actually considering ordering some bags of tabs, including these very designs.

Under that, was my spring over axle kit. I priced around for what I needed and this was a good price. Now that I'm looking at it, I'm going to have to amend my assessment to say that it's a GREAT price.

This is SERIOUS beef, and the out-of-the-box fit up is perfect. Any guilt I was feeling for spending money to get someone else to form parts for me to weld up is absolutely GONE. This is WORTH EVERY PENNY and then some.

Take a look!

First out of the box, there were 7 badass U bolts.



By the way it was wrapped, it was immediately obvious that this was not a miscount. The FJ60 front pumpkin ridies just inside of the spring and when you go SOA, the inboard bolt has to do something different. 2 hardened bolts were right next door and look to be the same diameter and thread pitch:



Shackle plates, extended length. These are 3/8 plate.



Here are the spring hangers. There are 4, one for each of the fixed ends of each leaf spring.



They're quarter inch plate, laser cut and press brake formed. The bends are clean and dead square. Those are some nice square cuts! Look at the perfectly straight inside creases. My press brake won't do it that clean.

Shock mounts are supplied as complete formed captures instead of as singular tabs in sets of 2:



They included 4 of the typical urethane bushing sets with a through tube for a center bolt, except THEIRS are supplied with 3/16" wall DOM tubes. Everyone else uses .125 wall HREW. This is BEEF.



Here's the bushing mount.



Notice the attention to detail. The fit up is dead perfect. It slides together as a tight hand fit. Remember, this is formed with thermal cuts (looks like laser) and THEN press brake bends, and it's DEAD ON aligned and still a tight slip fit. The contact between the mount and the bushing tube is greater than 180 degrees. You have to slide the tube in from the side.

These are the spring perches for the axle housing. Note that there are 3 that are alike:



While the last one is quite different:



The three perches designed to sit on round tube are 1/4" plate. The 2-piece perch is 3/8".

Here, the 2 hardened bolts are obviously designed to fit through these holes, replacing where a U bolt can't be used, because the spring perch sits partially onto the pumpkin.



Here are the top plates, in 3/8 plate... pure beef.




So, best I can tell, the order of events for this part of the project is to first take the springs in to get re-arched, and install these frame mounts. When the springs come back, I can rest the vehicle on the springs on the axles for a while, but I'm not going to do the new spring perches until the new engine and transmission are in place, because the transfer case will have moved. Once the transfer case is in it's final place, I can aim the pinions and do the spring perches.

Simple!

Oh... then there's a cut and turn to do.

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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

That is some seriously nice stuff! Seeing fitment like that genuinely makes me happy.

Are you going to mig weld your perches on, or tig?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

Your fab skills are formidable. But yeah, I agree, that stuff is in another league. Good choice!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

KaJeep wrote:
That is some seriously nice stuff! Seeing fitment like that genuinely makes me happy.

Are you going to mig weld your perches on, or tig?

This would all be MIG. I don't have nearly as much experience with TIG as I do with MIG and the heaviest material I've TIG'ed is .120 wall DOM tube. In my hands, MIG is much more forgiving of variable metal prep quality, variable thickness, variable fit-up, etc., and I've destructively tested my weld techniques so that I have a good idea about what's going on under the surface with different machine settings.

I do plan to TIG the cage. Wink

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az4runner wrote:
glideraz wrote:
if I where you I would just get some jb weld
Is jb weld really as strong as if I just welded them on with my welder?

glideraz wrote:
Could be stronger it all depends on how you weld
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: The "I can quit at any time" build thread Reply with quote

i say lets jb weld all that shit together just to see what happens.

real world testing Wink

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