#46: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:49 pm ---- Friends of Redington Pass posted up this CAT travel management plan from the USFS on April 3rd.
Looks like Mt. Lemmon is going to fare the worst with no more camping within 300' of the road.
As for Redington Pass
Here you can clearly see the re-route of FR4431 around the mud area near Chimney rock, but most of the rest of the routes are not touched.
#47: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Kiddmen57, Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:20 pm ---- Here is the link to the USDA page about the Santa Catalina Ranger Office for the Coronado Natinal Foret, and the documents supporting changes to the travel management plan.
this doc is a summary of proposed changes. Not sure how the hell they come up with a net gain of 17 miles of added road, I come up with a net loss of around 11 miles of "open to all motor vehicle" roads. I don't really care if they add admin only roads as I cant use them...
With fire season around the corner, crews in the Coronado National Forest completed their final planned controlled burn of the spring in late April.
The Buckhorn Prescribed Burn reduced dry fuels on 4,600 acres of Redington Pass, with crews working the area much of last week.
“Fire does have a role in natural landscapes," said Coronado National Forest Spokesperson Heidi Schewel. "It is a natural change agent and we’re trying to use it to do what it normally would do here.”
During the last 20 years, the U.S. Forest Service has reintroduced controlled fire to federal land, using it to remove dried out vegetation that was kindling for wildfires.
Park officials meticulously plan each burn, making sure they know exactly what they want to do, and what is needed to do it.
“It’s not just run out there and light a fire," said Schewel. "It’s plan for it. Do analysis. Get your ducks in a row and when the time comes that you have planned to do this burn, if you’re in prescription and things are working right, then you can do it.”
A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.Firefighters watch as fire burns dried vegetation on the ground.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.A firefighter uses a drip torch to burn dry grasses in Reddington Pass.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.A small cactus still has its flowers despite the controlled burn passing around it.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.“Fire does have a role in natural landscapes.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.Firefighters communicate on radios as they black-line the area that will be burnt.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest. Minutes after being lit, much of the fire has burnt itself out, though some areas continue to smolder.A controlled burn near Redington Pass in the Coronado National Forest.Firefighters watch as fire burns dried vegetation on the ground.
On the first day of the burn, Engine 552 from the Santa Catalina Ranger District and the Globe Interagency Hot Shot Crew worked along San Pedro Road, which was the fires northern-most boundary.
Their job was to char an outline of the area to be burned in the next step.
“The technique that we use is called black-lining," said Leo Holly, the burn boss trainee on the Buckhorn Prescribed Burn. "It helps us meet our objectives a lot safer, and if we have to use aviation resources to fill in the middle, it’s going to secure our lines that much better.”
Some members of the crew walk through the area using hand tools to knock any upright vegetation onto the ground. From there, other crewmembers use drip torches to light the fuels.
The torches are filled with a mixture of gasoline and diesel. The fuel drips across a flame, catching fire before it dropping to the ground in the desired spot.
After that, the small spurts of flame grow into flames that can get as tall as the firefighters.
The process is laborious but relatively cheap. The Buckhorn Prescribed Burn cost about $20 an acre.
In 2014, the federal government spent about $420 an acre suppressing wildfire.
After a few minutes, the flames die down to smoldering embers. The area is mostly charred black and brown, but there are still hints of green.
The vegetation that could catch fire quickly if there was a lightning strike or a lit cigarette tossed out a window is gone, turned into fertilizer for the next generation of plants.
Some plants even still have their flowers.
“We’re getting really good fire effects," said Burn Boss Trainee Holly. "It should come back real nice during the monsoons when the rains come in."
But the time before monsoons hit the area that can be most concerning for fire season and that time starts now.
“May tends to be when we ramp up our fire season here in southeastern Arizona,” said Lee Carlaw, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Tucson. “The days start getting longer. Sun angle gets very high, and we get hot and very dry.”
Carlaw said this spring has been unusually wet. The National Weather Service said this year is the first time Tucson has seen rain on May 2, 3, and 4 in recorded history.
While the recent rain storms can help delay the start of what could be an intense fire season, they are no substitute for snowpack in the mountains.
“Snow melt is a big thing we look for on top of our mountains because that provides a consistent supply as we start to melt the snow during the spring as things warm up,” Carlaw said.
Back at the Buckhorn Prescribed Burn, the second day saw the completion of the outlining.
The interior portion was then lit by dropping special spheres filled with potassium permanganate and glycol, two chemicals that react when mixed and start a fire.
The air-dropped fires are often sparked at the top of hills, allowing the burn to work its way slowly down and preserve any riparian areas.
The Buckhorn Prescribed Burn finished on May 1.
With the final prescribed burn of the season in Coronado National Forest completed, crews will now be on the ready, because the next fire they are called out on may not be one that was planned like the Buckhorn Prescribed Burn.
#49: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:39 pm ---- JUNE update
Friends of Redington Pass continues to focus on the Collaborative Area Management Plan process for Redington Pass. Four working groups are focusing on four issue areas: Recreational Target Shooting, Recreational Access, Highly used Areas, and Conflicts among Users. These working groups held four rounds of meetings between February and May as well as a full group field trip in April. An integration group made up of representatives from each issue working group has also met four times to review the working groups' progress and identify any overarching concerns or patterns that are emerging. Research will continue over the summer and the working groups will reconvene this fall to pick up where they left off in May.
The Coronado National Forest held a successful 3-day controlled burn in the Buckhorn area of Redington Pass this April. Close to 4,600 acres of grasses and shrubs were burned to encourage new plant growth to benefit local wildlife and livestock. Details. Photos.
#50: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Velociraptor, Location: Tucson, AZPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:51 am ---- Any plans on the schedule for a cleanup with Tread Lightly! yet?
#51: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:45 am ---- No it hasn't been discussed yet
#52: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:00 pm ---- Had our first CAMP group meeting of the year. Another field trip coming up in the next few weekends. Won't be to anyplace tough though so I won't post up a run.
The USFS, AZ Game and Fish were at the meeting tonight.
#53: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:38 pm ----
Heading out for a Field Trip on Saturday to Chimney Rock.. NEED YOUR HELP!!! Need seats!
I'd love to have 3 other FJ's at least come with me. Klayton, you could come too.
This is to discuss the trail to and around Chimney rock, and how we might be able to open the back of it in the rocks. Might also go out to the Racetrack Tank. A neat little side trail behind the staging area.
Where: Meeting at the CIRCLE K at East Tanque Verde When: 8:30 am on Sunday, Oct 25th.
Should be back before Lunch. Just an out and back.
WHO's WITH ME?
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#54: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: ratfink, Location: southern ArizonaPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:18 pm ---- I may be in Jim, let me check it out.
#55: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Velociraptor, Location: Tucson, AZPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:58 am ---- I'm IN.
#56: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:54 am ---- Cool Ken. We can talk abut Tread Lightly too while we are out there.
#57: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:13 pm ---- The meet up date is actually SUNDAY, sorry the date is correct though. 25th.
#58: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:23 pm ---- Dear AZFJ,
Cleanup on the Pass scheduled for December 12, 2015
Friends of Redington Pass (FRP) and Tread Lightly! together with the Coronado National Forest and multiple recreation and conservation groups will join in a volunteer cleanup on Redington Pass Saturday, December 12th from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm (check-in starts at 8:00 am). Please put this on your calendar and spread the word to all your friends and fellow supporters of Redington Pass. Details and Signup.
FRP Facebook Page Up!
Friends of Redington Pass is now on Facebook where you will find timely information on upcoming events. Check out our new Facebook page and "Like" us!
Collaborative Area Management Plan
UPDATE: The Collaborative Area Management Plan (CAMP) process for Redington Pass is continuing this fall. Four working groups are on track to make recommendations on Recreational Target Shooting, Recreational Access, Highly used Areas, and Conflicts among Users. The Integration Group will be reviewing the working groups' draft recommendations in the new year and hopes to present a set of recommendations at a community meeting mid-winter.
More information on CAMP and links to related documents.
Pass it on!
#59: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:19 pm ----
#60: Re: NEW Friends of Reddington Pass Info!!! Author: Jimbolio, Location: TucsonPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:19 am ---- SO,
the CAMP process is winding down, and recommendations are about to be submitted to the USFS so they can release their Travel Management Plan. I think we fared pretty well. The shooters, not as much.
Here is a map of the current plan/proposal. We may even get a few more trails.
That would be nice.
Chiva Falls is #9,
#7 is Chimney Rock,
three feathers is #5