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tanman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

I got the inner tie rod end replaced and that removed the free play at the tire.

But, hitting fairly severe washboards(with left front tire), or stepping over obstacles(with left front tire) going downhill but not up, will cause a brief shake or shudder and slight noise in the steering wheel.

I haven't yet found anything I can tug on and get movement, but I'm considering dropping the skid plate to have a look see.

Has anyone else had symptoms similar to this?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Rack and pinion?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Homedad wrote:
Rack and pinion?

That's what I'd suspect, or something in the linkage/shaft up to the wheel.

Since there was a failed boot on the inner tie rod end maybe water got inside(?).

My probelm is duplicating the issue for a "factory" technician to experience it. Since the dealer I purchased from is in Showlow, hopefully there's a relatively rough road to try it out on.

I must assume this type of thing is pretty rare. And I guess I can't blame the dealer for not catching it on a normal test drive. Maybe they should have caught the torn boot on inspection, but I didn't. I just felt the play at the tire.

I want to get this last nagging problem fixed to I can wander the trails confidently. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Control arm bushings?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

ZJFABN wrote:
Control arm bushings?

Since they're under tension I can't move the control arms, but both left and right look the same.

So far, unlike the loose tie rod, I can't point to the problem and say fix it, all I can do is try to demonstrate the symptoms for a mechanic.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Hey Tanman.
Did you find a solution to your "shaking" problem??

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

to this day.. this is a mystery.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

calichaos wrote:
to this day.. this is a mystery.

Does it ruin your off road experience?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Mine has made a noise in those situations for as long as I have been taking it off road. It sounds like something is loose but I have no idea what it is. Drives perfectly fine all other times. And thankfully doesn't do it all the time off road. I've found on those sections of off road that do cause it , if I don't try to control the steering wheel so tight, and let it "work" the noise is much less.
Not sure if it's the same as yours but that's my experience. It's certainly a bummer.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Check the bolts in your lower rear links.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Jimbolio wrote:
Check the bolts in your lower rear links.

Rear?
My shake is definitely up front.
It even happens with potholes sometimes.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

The rear can affect the front more then you might think, but I'm guessing the issue in the rear would feel more like forward and back vibration then side to side.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: "shake" in steering on rough ground? Reply with quote

Could also be your ball joints in your UCA's wearing out.

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